YSaC, Vol. 359: I’m interested in whatever too!
Note from drmk on this post: After thinking it through, I’m leaving this post up but reserving the right to delete comments on it, and also reserving the rights to turn off commenting if I decide it’s necessary.
If I had known the back story on CWC I would not have posted this entry, because while his ad is certainly mockworthy for a number of reasons, he appears to have problems much deeper than sucking on Craigslist.
A good question was raised by someone using the screen name Delabonte: “So it’s okay for you lot to make fun of sad people, but not us?” This made me think — what is the difference between this website and the wiki websites devoted to attacking CWC?
I think the difference is that my intended focus on this website is on people’s actions — that is, the ads they write — and not the person as an individual. (I’ll admit straying from that, and the asshat tag is a prime example of targeting the individual and not the action.)
In contrast, I find the malice against CWC on the wiki websites to be directly targeted at him as a person and way over the line, and that started to happen in the comments here.
I don’t want that kind of attack to happen here. There’s a difference between saying, “This person did a stupid thing,” and “This person is stupid”. I try to maintain the former, while the group that has, for whatever reason, appointed themselves CWC watchdogs appears to favor the latter.
Before anyone cries censorship, all I’m trying to do is to maintain the tenor of the blog as I intended it. One of the things I love about the people who are regular commenters on this blog is that you all tend to be brilliant, funny, and clever people, and I’d really like to retain that, as it’s what makes this blog special and enjoyable for me (and I suspect for others). Personal attacks are not brilliant, funny, or clever.
Thanks. Have a sammich.
Single Hip Dude lookin’ for a True Woman to share a Relationship with. – 27
I am an honest, caring person who is in need of an honest, caring woman to share conversations and life with. I have a lot of interests, including drawing, video games, music and whatever. I am pleasant and easy to talk to. In short, I would like a woman who is 18 to 27-years old, Smoke-Free, does NOT already have children, has a True, Honest and Caring personality, and resides around or within RUCKERSVILLE and CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA. To BEST set up a date, please call my Pop on mi telefone de casa @ xxxxxxxxxx, and TALK ABOUT YOURSELF like you were talking to me; he will relay the message. I prefer IN-PERSON ENCOUNTERS; the sooner the better. 🙂
*Also, a note to those who have recently e-mailed me: I humbly apologize for not replying, but I don’t get on my PC often currently, but my digits are here; give a ring. 😉
*And not meaning to be offensive, no jewish, please.
Love and Peace,
C.W.C.
Yeah. I’m pretty sure that a guy wearing a Ralph Lauren rugby shirt from the late 1980s, sitting in front of Transformers posters and memorabilia, and wearing bling that looks like a — what the hell IS that thing, anyway? — doesn’t have much room to be picky about who calls them. Especially when “calling” involves talking to the guy’s father (still living in your room from high school?) and leaving a message.
I think we’re working from different definitions of the word hip. When I think of hip dudes I think of guys with spiky hair and skinny black jeans discussing how they believe that irony as a trend is passé and that sincerity is the new irony. I don’t think of someone who probably gets carded when he goes to 18-and-over night at the local Roll-a-Rena.
Just another example of how this generation’s culture has a “I’m the shit” complex, hahaha.
Seriously, email me that number. I’m’a have a talk with his Pop.
I can vouch for that. I was recently in court (it’s my job) and a guy walked in thirty minutes late wearing a shirt that read, I shit you not, “I’m the shit” in sparkly fake jeweled letters.
that’s classy
This may be a hoax, but it’s certainly in character. The man pictured is Chris-Chan ( http://cogsdev.110mb.com/cwcki/index.php/Christian_Weston_Chandler ). He’s been on a fruitless sweetheart search for some time now. The medallion is his personal creation “Sonichu”, cleverly derived from the names of the characters he ripped off in its creation, Sonic and Pikachu.
That thing around his neck is his Sonichu Medallion. He wears it to attract boyfriend-free girls because he wants china (vagina).
Line up, ladies.
hahaha! i read the wiki that Mantitx posted above- hilarious!
Oh, dear. I’m not sure I feel comfortable making fun of the challenged. Shall have to re-think this post.
No, don’t feel bad. Chris Chan is a failbag, and that has nothing to do with Asperger’s.
You have NOTHING to feel bad about. Chris’ problems could fill a book, and a solid 90% or so of them have nothing to do with Autism. He’s a complete and utter prick. For what its worth, there are a noteworthy amount of people with Autism/Asperger’s that despise him and/or ridicule him.
it has been surmised that the *majority* of people who mess with him are, in fact, probably Aspies themseves. People tend to rile against those in their group who give the group a bad name.
I’ve been a moderator on a chat for people with autism and Asperger syndrome (which I have myself). I often had users who were causing problems respond that they can’t help it because they’re autistic, and therefore shouldn’t be expected to follow the chat rules, or any rules for that matter. If a person is high-functioning enough to be chatting or posting on Craigslist, the fact that they are on the autism spectrum does not mean they can’t control their behavior – they may not always know what’s appropriate, but once it’s made clear what behavior is expected, there is no reason they can’t follow the rules (many people on the spectrum actually get obsessed with rules and cannot tolerate any deviation from the letter of the law). Asshattery is asshattery.
I have Asperger’s too, and have no problem laughing at this guy (or the whole anime/4chan/videogame/fanfiction universe, for that matter). Last week we were watching the Michael Jackson interview from 2003 and my husband said, “Crappy childhood or not, the guy was still really effing weird.” If you’re going to be really effing weird and then *share it with the world*, AND take yourself super seriously in the process, you’re going to get mocked. I learned that in grade school. Chris Chan apparently still hasn’t learned it.
I was, however, horrified by the wiki. The anti-autism hate speech on that site is really sad, and it’s unfortunate that people like “Chris Chan” are becoming the face of autism in the internet community. Most of us are nothing like him.
drmk, thank you , (and the persons(?)that post) for making my day on a regular basis. By now, I should know better than to drink and read- keyboards are getting sprayed.
Oh my god! It’s CWC! I don’t know if this is actually posted by him, since it’s not long-winded and loopy enough. Plus, it doesn’t mention that he’s looking for his true Sweetheart. Oh god. This guy deserves everything he gets from the internet.
Indeed, I too wonder if this is really him. I’m wondering if the picture is stolen by some old guy wanting to talk to young girls, and that’s why the whole “talk to my Pop as if it were me” thing is there.
Although if that’s true you’d think the mysterious old guy in question could find a better picture. Then again maybe this is what he thinks college girls would think is cool, it’s got all the stuff in it that kids are into these days, right?
Actually, this was Chris.
It was posted in the Charlottesville craigslist. It got taken down due to him specifying NO JEWS.
Does he just post everywhere or is he from Virginia? (Just curious why he keeps showing up on the Charlottesville CL…)
If you’ll actually take the time to read the CWCki, you will see no sympathy is in order. This is a racist, idiotic, entitled douchebag who thinks the world revolves around him and his search for china. Believe me, this scumbag is hated for a reason. Actually many, many reasons.
Yeah, I read the whole thing (and would like my brain back now, please). The guy’s done a lot of stupid things online, but I’m still not entirely comfortable with snarking about him.
One of the things that horrified me about the CL post was the “Please, no Jewish” comment, and that was the main reason I posted this. (That, and the fact that the picture looked like it was taken in 1987.)
It just seems like this guy has bigger problems than sucking on Craigslist.
I think you mean sucking at Craigslist, right? Oh the images.
It’s someone pretending to be CWC. Sorry.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan
That’s pretty hateful. If the guy really is that bad, even if it really has nothing to do with his autism, why don’t people just ignore him?
See? Christian Weston Chandler is the ultimate epitome of fail, ghey and xerxes. His most popular pieces? The Craigslist entry and the video where he tells us, among other nasty shit, that he drinks (“recycles”) his own cum, are the things the outside world knows about him!
You still have to read the Sonichu comics. They’re the absolute epitome of fail. Both art and writing tell us he’s a manchild, a 27-year-old man with the mind of a 6-years-old kid. THEY MUST BE SEEN TO BE BELIEVED!
I will not tolerate gay (or any internet-based variant thereof) being used as an insult, and comments like this are making me lean even further towards pulling this entry or closing down comments on it.
I’m actually with you on this one. I don’t like this entry, or the created page bashing anyone.
@Da_Nuke:
The fact that you’ve made it your business to know so much about the guy, and that you feel comfortable talking about it in such terms here, says a lot about you.
Oh Jesus, he looks exactly like my brother-in-law. I mean, it’s not my brother-in-law but it could be one of his cousins. I’ve never heard of the CWC person before but this is creeping me out.
OMG….I just lost most of my day sitting here & reading the CWCki. And alternating between LOLing, retching, and simply sitting here with an utterly befuddled look on my face. Thanks Internet!!
I, like drmk would like my brain back, as well.
Well, that wiki was rather tame, by ‘nets standards. I was expecting to be blown away by the absurdity and the lulz. Color me disappointed. 🙁
When he mentioned the talking to the dad thing, I thought maybe he was deaf.
I swear I’ve seen this person on YouTube (via The Internet Is Terrible). He’s pretty severely autistic.
Aha – just read the wiki, and it is indeed the same person. I would NOT call him “high functioning”. I have Asperger’s, and people like that give us a bad name.
I have a hard time knowing what to believe in any of this, as the tone of the wikis linked here is so over-the-top as to sound like what I imagine 4chan is like. I’m not surprised this post ended up on YSAC, but knowing the can of worms this has opened up, and the kinds of things people are posting, I agree that it’s time to either shut this entry down or at least stop comments.
I agree. I think that the wiki on him is steeped in malice (why does the author know so much about his life? It’s just down-right creepy) and if it’s a grey area about whether or not to poke fun at him, seems as though the answer should be no.
Maybe having Aspergers syndrome isn’t an excuse to act innapropriately, but just because this man uses it as an excuse doesn’t mean we should attack him.
I don’t think we should attack him for the sole reason that there’s no sport in it.
The guy has obviously pissed off the intergods, who immediately sucked all the funny out of his story.
They know about his life because this man TELLS the whole internet about his life all the time in Youtube videos and by giving out disgusting details on his own encyclopedia dramatica entry.
I’d pity him if I weren’t nauseated.
“Chris-Chan’s” page like many others was , I think, created as sort of “extreme peer pressure” one of the main points of ED articles is to ridicule unacceptable behavior by responding in an equally or far worse way.
The whole site is about 50 % sarcasm, (like this is so terrible, but also funny) 30% subject submitted content (re: Chris-Chan) and 20% self-referencing jokes (links to other very not G rated articles).
It is terrible, it is cruel, and it is disgusting: but all of their subjects are too.
Their subjects do border line unlawful(and often times very unlawful- many people on ED have called the local police on pedophiles, people who sexually abuse their animals and other disgusting things), violating, stalkerish, violent and indecent things ( Chris-Chan especially, a girl who pitied him at a local comic store ended up being publicly ridiculed with her real name , he created and posted pornography, that depicted her as a pink Sonic the hedgehog character as well as telling many people they were dating.) and ED displays all their ugliness.
I think their aim for the site to be like “to catch a predator” and expose what people are doing online and remind them” people still see it, and that everything isn’t okay online”.
Ironically enough.
And as always a lot of them do it for the lulz.
So it”s okay for you lot to make fun of sad people, but not us?
I’m torn. The “no jewish” comment falls squarely under the asshat tag, but the wiki just made me sad. This kid may bring a lot upon himself but this level of internet interference is exactly the type of exposure that can cause an already unstable person to do something tragic.
The ad is pure crazy failure and asshattery.
At the same time, the guy seems to have a serious online hatedom going, so the odds are good this is going to get ugly.
Ok! On a completely different note, I love the new quilty icons. 🙂
drmk: i applaud you addition of the commentary prior to this posting.
As a former special education teacher I can sympathize with where you are coming from, however, with that being said I always tried to impart upon my students that they can NOT use their disability as a crutch for EVERYTHING in life. So, if your reading skills are a bit off, hey admit it to your boss; or if you are confused, go ahead, ask that question again. Autism is a broad spectrum disability, the effects of which are seen more prominently in some, while others pursue their lives without bearing mention or attention.
Here, though, this individual is using his autism as a crutch. Autism does not excuse homophobia, anti-semitism, nor the complete disregard for authority (the police, his dean at college). Autism does not entail posting pictures of your penis on the web.
So, if he DID post this, then this 100% belongs on YSAC (giving your parent’s phone number out ?!) and even hypothetically if HE did not post this, his previous egocentric tendencies have thrust-himself-into-the-internet-spotlight, and his egregious disrespect for human beings is so remote from his “disability” that the CL ad should remain up. Those who truly wish to remain private don’t voluntarily disclose intimate details, pictures, videos. Those who put it out there should expect some backlash.
Sorry for such a long comment (with such a serious tone) but I had to respond to your valid point. This site is SO FUN… please keep me laughing. (and trust me when i say, this one did make me chuckle!)
I don’t think he has to worry about responses from Jewish women; I’m not Jewish but my friends who are have enough taste and sense not to be interested in this man … boy … person …
This is my first ever comment on this site. I just had to respond.
If you decided to take this down, drmk, I would be behind you 100%.
I just read the entire Wiki, and nearly lost all faith in humanity.
No person, Autistic or otherwise, should be treated like that for their differences or naivety.
While the “No Jews” bit, and the part where he insiuates that telling his father all about yourself is completely normal are a little… awful, I still nearly retched while reading that Wiki.
How can anyone treat another human being in that manner?
The struggle between Chris-Chan’s asshat behavior and the obsessive hatred on that CWC wiki and Encyclopedia Dramatica leaves me mired in a vague malaise. This is another one of those situations where everyone seems to be in the wrong, y’know.
That’s generally the feeling I’m left with most times if I read an ED article. Sure, the person usually brought it on themselves, but some other person(s) put a ridiculous amount of time and effort into mocking them and documenting all their perceived failings.
The internet brings out the worst in a lot of people.
And how. :/
This post and the related comments, which led me, out of curiosity, to see what was up with CWC, made me think about what I enjoy about this site…I have, from time to time, felt bad about someone who was so hard up for cash, for instance, that they took the time to take pictures, upload them, and write an ad for something they hoped to get 5 dollars for. I do love your posts, and I look forward to them every day, but this discussion has made me realize that my enjoyment contains more than a little element of schadenfreude. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing, to realize something about yourself that you didn’t know before.
I regularly refer to this site and others like it (e.g. cake wrecks, it’s lovely i’ll take it) as my favorite “schadenfreude blogs.” It may not be 100% of what they’re about, but I like to remind myself that that element is there–more than a little, I think. I agree that it’s not necessarily a bad thing, and it’s certainly human to see humor in tragedy, even our own. After all, the Germans have a whole word for it.
This is an interesting conversation. While I’m not a mean-spirited person by any stretch of the imagination, I do feel that people who put themselves out there in an aggressive way do set themselves up for comment and, yes, maybe even ridicule.
The only other wiki site like this that I’m familiar with is Caseypedia. I’ve been following him for years and am fascinated with him for many reasons that people appear to be fascinated by C.W.C. – the balls it takes to hang it all out online while there also seems to be a degree of obliviousness to their own narrow-mindedness. Followers of Casey have divided themselves into fans and “Haterz.” Some of the Haterz have caused problems for him because he really did some sneaky financial dealings and these people have taken it upon themselves to make sure he gets prosecuted. However, a lot of people have tried to give him advice and help him see how he is his own worst enemy. This whole phenomena reminds me of how a small town many years ago may have tried to “straighten out” one of its own. But now it is happening online. And we all get a peek into a world we wouldn’t otherwise see.
I agree, drmk, that this ad belongs on this site because, regardless of his personal problems, obviously this guy’s actions are questionable and laughable, at least to the general population. And he put it out there. It’s not like you intentionally target random people that are not already putting it out there online. However, people like C.W.C. and Casey do have a passionate following and, yeah, I’d want to avoid flare-ups like this too. But how would you know?
It all started with how this guy was marketing his ’80s rugby shirt / medallion thingy image. How could we NOT want to comment? Like I said, I’m not mean-spirited, but this is public and, hey if someone wants to laugh at my bad hair days when I just don’t give a hoot about how I look, go for it! But guess what, you won’t find those pictures online.
I hate to ruin people’s fun, but this kind of sounds like a huge internet joke. It reminds me of “LonelyGirl” on youtube. I wouldn’t be surprised if “CWC” is actually just a regular old internet geek making fun of geek stereotypes. He probably even wrote the Wiki.
Ah, no. The ED page pretty much sums it up- this is not fake. It’s been separately confirmed by some girl who worked at a spray tan booth describing the polo and saying he sang at her storefront, screamed at his game boy and showed her his medallion.
If you can wade through the porn Chris posted of a girl who polite to him and tolerated his presence then you’ll see the evidence.
And all this time I thought I was the one who put the ass in Asperger’s.
Encyclopedia Dramatica may be a hate site, but Chris-Chan is a bigot. It’s one thing to be socially maladroit and blame the world for it in some vague way, it’s quite another to single out specific groups of people. His martyrdom is as annoying as that of the Mothers on a Mission for Hysteria. As they’re so convinced that vaccines caused their children’s condition and not genetics he should ask them to fix him up with their daughters. Not that I want those kids to have to suffer any more than they already do, I just want to aim CWC’s vileness somewhere useful.
CWC is like a member of an oppressed minority lashing out at the world and demanding he be given a pass because of his membership.
It’s too bad that metaphor and analogy often don’t translate well in our world. Two cartoons each have an episode that might teach him something.
Family Guy: Petarded
My Gym Partner’s a Monkey: Bad News Bear
My money is on his already having seen the second one.
I’ve been on the internet long enough that things like CWC don’t throw me. What IS, however, is the fact that china is now an euphemism for vagina. When the heck did that happen.
Apparently it’s an invention of CWC himself because he’s not comfortable saying “vagina”.
All I can add is that I’m not “A Jewish.” I’m a JEW for fuck’s sake! (You know, among other things…) It’s like Saved!. *sigh*
The wiki makes me a little sad because there’s so much vitriol in it, but this CL post makes a perfect target.
Eh, Chris-Chan is a jerk. When the whole debacle started I was more of ‘aww, guys I feel bad!’ (my comments are probably somewhere on the early CWC discussion pages) but the things he says drives me over a wall. ‘No Jews’ to me, while ass-holish is fine because we all our tastes and what not. What got to me (and eventually involved) was the ‘no autistics’ thing he had going on. NO AUSTISTICS! WTF!?
I think he is an awful human being, I’ve met nice people with mental issues before, I’ve met one who was racist and had the courtesy to not call me a nigger. There are perfectly nice people out who suffer from his disability, and I’m not giving him a free ride because of it. And I don’t think anyone is obsessed with his life, it’s a wiki after all, everyone contributes the small piece of insanity they find out usually by his will.
There’s another person written on ED who has oddball quirks but people leave him alone because he appears to nice individual.
Sorry for the rant. Now, I’m more amused by his antics rather than being upset by his disgusting martyrdom. As for being on the site, well he posted it on Craigslist, wasn’t seemed to be provoked to do it.
“As for being on the site, well he posted it on Craigslist, wasn’t seemed to be provoked to do it.”
That’s the thing – he doesn’t notice, or doesn’t care, that everyone’s making fun of him. Not only that, but one of his tactics to stop the trolling has been to give the trolls MORE mockable information in order to, uh, overload their minds or something. All that horrible stuff is on the wiki because HE provided it – in his own defense, no less!
Part of me really, really wants to believe that HE is the troll and everyone else has been suckered. What a fantastic conceptual art piece/sociological experiment that would be.
Part of me hoped as well, but I’m no longer that optimistic. Fortunately, as long as there are people who don’t use their disability as an excuse to behave in such a manner people like him will be taken to task.
He invited the internet (a hive of scum and villainy) into his home, and this (I believe) is a logical result to the things he has shown.
As for morality, I’m certainly not claiming any moral righteousness. I think this is just a case reaping what you’ve sown. If I have to tolerate obnoxiousness, and abject egotism (or worse, say it’s ok!?) to be apart of the enlightened people of society, then make room in the cesspool, please!
@cleaseltheweasel:
Your “social experiment” idea seems pretty plausible to me. Several years ago I spent about three days stirring up trouble in message boards (I can’t remember what site I was on now) as a stereotypical creationist / fundamentalist Christian. Even though my posts were deliberately filled with impossible leaps in logic, awful grammar, and obvious fakery, the attacks I got were sincere enough to be truly gratifying. I’ve long since outgrown such behavior, but I can certainly see how someone like CWC could be tempted to cultivate such a discharacter.
“…I’ve met one who was racist…”
Out of curiosity, what exactly did you base that conclusion on? Racism is a pretty heinous accusation and, IMHO, overdiagnosed, but I’d be ESPECIALLY wary of calling a mentally disabled person racist.
Wow. I take a couple weeks off, and everything goes crazy.
I was originally was rolling my eyes at the preface assuming it was going to be oversensitive, thought policing.
And the posting was kinda funny. As a resident of VA, I was even going to apologize for him.
But now….woah.
The wiki’s just made me feel dirty and uneasy.
“Special needs” or not. Asshat or not. No human being deserves to be treated in that way.
And a large amount of the comments weren’t the witty “regulars”…it was the same cesspool of humanity, ignorant, hateful comments you get on about 95% of the rest of the internet.
Every time that i think that the Internet has completely numbed my senses, I see something like those pages that makes me ashamed and sad for society.
I need like 20 minutes of my life back. I’m mentally drained. I’m going to bed.
So, what sucks about this craigslist posting? Is there a premise about the Jewish thing that is unknown to the casual observer?
Back in the days of Usenet, specifically on groups that were the prototypes of these kinds of schadenfreude sites such as the news.admin.net-abuse.* groups and alt.usenet.kooks, there was a standard of behavior known as “Formosa’s Rule,” to wit:
“The truly insane have enough on their plates without us adding to it.”
CWC’s asshatery is evident…equally evident is that he’s either legitimately several gizzards short of a mcnugget, or a truly masterful net.troll/’performance artist.’
Either way, while I find the inclusion of this particular ad on YSAC to be perfectly reasonable and appropriate, the larger body of ‘work’ such as the stuff at ED should clearly fall under Formosa for anyone who couldn’t benefit from a few basketweaving classes at the local nuthatch themselves.
I’m pretty sure that a guy wearing a Ralph Lauren rugby shirt from the late 1980s, sitting in front of Transformers posters and memorabilia, and wearing bling that looks like a — what the hell IS that thing, anyway? — doesn’t have much room to be picky about who calls them.
The correct way to do it would be “who calls HIM,” but I only mention it because you harp on people so much about grammar and punctuation.
Yup, I have pronoun issues.
The posting is most likely fake. When CWC displays his racism, he usually says “no blacks”. The “Jew” thing however, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had made any racist remarks about Jews.
Aside from the things already said, I really hate how this guy reinforces stereotypes ranging from “autistics are socially incompetent” to “geeks are lonely losers”. Thanks CWC.